Monday, November 21, 2011

Notch vs Yogscast - Behind the Convention, Minecon. Videos

Happier Times
At one point the boys seems to actually enjoy being together and goofing on one another.  Notch himself goes a little blue, while the Simon and Lewis do they're usual NSFL act, per usual.



Then at some point along the line this happened:




 Markus Persson 

We also learned who not to work with at Minecon. Shame.. :/



Then the twitterverse went nuts with wild speculation of "who" Notch was speaking of, then this again from Notch an hour later:



 Markus Persson 

I'm very sorry about the behavior of the people we won't work with any more. Celebrity or not, you don't f-bomb kids.



Which again put the twitterverse in a tissy, but people were starting to narrow down who they thought Notch was talking about. At this point some "yognaughts" took it unto themselves to defend their beloved duo and decided to send hate emails, and insults via twitter, which IMHO was a stupid thing to do, which prompted Notch to tweet in quick succession the following:



 Markus Persson 

Wow. Hate, insults and threats are flooding in from Yogscast fans. I'll stop biting my tongue now.




 Markus Persson 

Yogscast repeatedly insulted people, talked behind their backs, refused to cooperate, and acted like total spoiled divas nonstop.




 Markus Persson 

They called us "a bunch of nerds who don't know how to run a company", demanded that we pay them to come here (nobody else got paid).




 Markus Persson 

And they claim they're the reason minecraft is big and that we should thank them more than anyone else in the community. They're total dicks




 Markus Persson 

A kid wanted them to sign something I had signed, and they said they'd cross it out and put "fuck you" there instead.



 Markus Persson 

Everyone else in the Minecraft community is all about respecting and caring. They're not. They're an isolated island of egos.




 Markus Persson 

All this said, I'm very tired at the moment, and this will probably pass. I do like the work they do, very much.




 Markus Persson 

@ 
 Other people have done more, and demand less.



As of Monday the only reply from the yogscast were a few quick posts in their forums, indicating the same thing they put on their twitter feed:



 The Yogscast Crew 

@ 
 You will hear it in full graphic detail when we're back in the UK :)




 The Yogscast Crew 

An Official statement/Vlog will be released when Simon, Lewis and Hannah return from Las Vegas to clarify what has...




 The Yogscast Crew 

we are about to embark on a 24 hour journey home so will officially respond when back in the UK - Lewis



This despite their forums on http://yogscast.com site blowing up with speculation of what occurred, reports from people who had "first hand knowledge" of the yogscast antics, and likely Notch fanboi's fanning the flames in said forums, alongside opposite reports of the yogscast being awesome and nice throughout the whole of Minecon.


Tone it down a "Notch"
(see what I did there)
I'm finding it hard to believe that Simon was apart of any bad behavior, Lewis and Hanna, maybe.  I say Hannah as she might be the "organizer" of the group and maybe her and minecraft chick didn't get off on the right foot. I'm not a big fan of minecraft chick, she was SOOOOOOO annoying with all the SOOOOO, and SOOOO, and I'm not the only one who thinks so. yadda yadda yadda. Just dial it back ok.  If Notch wasn't on first hand to see the "f-bomb" remark I'd say its just hearsay and could be the ranting of a child/parent who didn't get the "promised" autograph, that by all accounts was a logistical nightmare from the reports I heard of the lines to get both Notch and Yogscast autographs.  On another note both panels involved swearing by both teams, and anyone who knows anything about yogscast knows how their shows go, so if a parent brought a kid to the yogscast panel not knowing (let alone vegas in general) I wouldn't hold responsible yogscast.  


Lewis, Really?
I did think yogscast did drop the ball a bit with their panel, as they were just showing off videos, etc instead of answering questions on their process, etc, but they've done that elsewhere so maybe they were looking for something different.  As for wanting to get paid, I can see why "if you're bringing in talent" to support your con you'd need to pay them, but again I don't know the details of behind the scenes to maybe the yogscast manager were being total dicks without yogscast's knowledge, but Mojang I'd say could afford to "splurge" for some key guests, especially considering that yogcast does bring in alot of new minecrafters, and they don't "solely" do minecraft videos any  longer.  With that said it'd be a shame if the yogscast abandoned the minecraft segment as I believe that is still their bread and butter.  With that said Lewis did seem a bit "rockstar-y" with his shades and attitude on stage at the panel, and simon seemed even taken a back, so they might have just had it out with whomever right before the panel.  It was pretty obvious something was amiss about that panel.


Regardless I think it was in poor taste to air this out exclusively on twitter by notch when they could have easily taken this whole affair and offline and cleared up any mis-communications between the various staff members.  But instead all Notch did was froth up the fanbases to where there is now going to be a geek war between the two factions.(new game model for a MMORPG?)  Yogcast could easily make videos ripping on minecraft over and over of how this feature sucks or this hasn't been implemented since alpha, etc, and turn players away from the game instead of turning them on to the game too.
I really, really, really, hope this is a "troll" gone bad by both yogscast and Notch. If it is, no one is laughing as its gotten way out of hand. If its not, for us of the fanbase who enjoys both yogscast and notch, it makes us feel like Mom and Dad are getting a divorce and everyone is politely yelling at one another, of whom is going to get the flip'n dog and no one caring about the inner turmoil their causing.


Also as of now I'm unable to directly connect to yogscast.com and I really hope that they're not being DDOS'd by some misguided Notch fanboi's as that is just as bad as yogscast fanbois sending hate mail and twitter insults.


Here is the yogscast video, part 1 and part 2 below with Notch in happier, but yet awkward times:







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